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Subject: Re: wintrump news 1-B: format of "time-zone" line

I don't think Trumpet Newsreader understands the standard TZ variable that
many programs use. In the setup, put either your three character time zone
(i.e. for me EDT) or "-0400". My NNTP server has no problem with EDT.

[e-mail] (Christopher Kolar) writes:
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> I use to set the zone with Eudora (CST6CDT), but it resulted in the
> aforementioned (in another post) inability to post due to an error parsing
> the date header.
>
> Is the only thing that I need do put "-0600" in that part of the config
> folder, or is there other specialised information that needs go in the
> time-zone line as well.

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Subject: Re: NNTP Protocol

NNTP is standard is defined in RFC 977 --

B. Kantor, P. Lapsley, "Network News Transfer Protocol: A Proposed Standard
for the Stream-Based Transmission of News", 02/01/1986. (Pages=27)
(Format=.txt)

You can FTP it from any sites that archive RFC files such as InterNIC:
ds.internic.net.

[e-mail] (Greg Segallis) writes:
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> I am interested in trying my hand at winsock programming.  I want
> to start with a newsreader program.  I am looking for any references
> or sources (standards, ftp sites, etc.) for the NNTP protocol or

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Subject: Re: Tattam's Winsock

Isn't there an FAQ for this group? <sigh>

For the nth time ... Winsock is a specification, an API, for Windows and the
current version of that, the specification, is 1.1. Hence, Winsock 1.1.

Trupmet Winsock is but one of the dozen implementation of this specification.
The currently released version is 1.0A. The current beta version is 1.0B beta
6 -- available by anonymous FTP from: petros.psychol.utas.edu.au.

[e-mail] (William J. Kendrick, Jr.) writes:
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> I'm using Peter Tattam's Trumpet Winsock Ver 1.0 A and was wondering if
> there was a newer version of this. I see lots of posts about Winsock
> ver 1.1, but cannot locate anything but the source files.

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From: [e-mail] (Valentin Melamed)
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Subject: PPP/SLIP/CSLIP + X.25

Hi all!

I'd like to have a stack similar to PPP/SLIP/CSLIP that runs over
X.25 network.  Here is the scheme: I'd like to be able to dial the local
X.25 access phone number (AT&T/BT/SPRINT/...) via serial connection and
then to make a connection to my Unix host, which is a node in the X.25
network.  The Unix host should understand both TCP/IP (for real Internet
connections) and X.25 for dial-to-X25 users.  I'm looking for solutions
on both sides: the client (pref.(Win)socket interface) and the server
(pref BSD socket interface).


 _______
|  PC      |     _______
|client    | RS232 | modem    | tel.line
|__WS___|_______|_______|_________...

                ..........     ________
         _______   /          \   |          |
        | modem |  :  X.25    :   | server |
    ..._____|_______|__:   net    :___|________|
               \........./

Does this animal exist?  I'll appreciate any pointers, suggestions, RFCs,
etc.

Thanx
Val
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Subject: Re: Mosaic 2a and telnet

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
wrote:

> This may be really basic, but I wonder if anyone can help me out.
> I am running WinMosaic 2.0 alpha over Trumpet Winsock.  HTTP and gopher URLs
> work fine.  When I specify a Telnet server, however, it tells me I don't
> have the Telnet viewer, then prints the following line in the dialog box:
>     Telnet/RLogin/tn3270
> Is 3270 a terminal type or something?  The network's NCSA software is
> version 2.3, from March 1991, and supports only vt100 emulation.  Nowhere in
> the Mosaic install documentation did I see mention of how to change expected
> emulation in the .ini file.
>     Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks

Try WinQVT. It works great with Mosaic.
John Walker
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Subject: Re: Trumpet Winsock and Network buffers

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Hugh Whalen)
wrote:

> I am having a problem with Trumpet Winsock. I get a warning message saying
> "Running with less than recommended number of network buffers (9 of 16)". When
> this happens the system is very unstable and TCPman.exe may lock up. I have a
> machine with 20MB of RAM but only 526KB of memory below 640KB and 20KB between
> 640KB and 1MB. I have a lot of device drivers (soundblaster card, CD-ROM,
> Netware stuff, Smartdrive, etc.)
>
I am having the damp errors. Try playing with the buffers command in the
NET.CFG file. The interesting thing is that when you decrease the buffers
in NET.CFG increases the buffers in Winsock????

John Walker
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Subject: Re: Chameleon WINSOCK question...

On 20 May 1994 06:32:52 GMT, Jason E Levine ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Does anyone know where Chameleon stores the license number and key?  It seems
: to be eluding me....

On the card that comes with it when you BUY it...
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Subject: Re: WINSOCK for DOS?

On Thu, 19 May 94 12:28:48, [e-mail] wrote:
:     Does anyone know if there is a DOS version of WINSOCK available?

Winsock is a WINDOWS SOCKET API... There is no such thing as DOSSOCK.

I suggest you obtain DOS specific TCP/IP stuff such as MINUET, NCSA/CUTCP
Telnet, NuPOP etc...

If you need more info, I'm here.
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Subject: Re: Free- or Shareware PPP for Windows

: Our Tulane University gopher has a downloadable PPP DOS driver, which you can
: load Winsock on top of (great English, huh?). Look in the gopher list for
: Louisiana.

That only works for some people [50/50?]... I have ditched that method
and have gone to SLIP w/ Trumpet Winsock.

While PPP would be nice, SLIP is much more clean [just as good english, huh?]

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Subject: A Question about Telnet

OK here's the thing-- I'd really like a telnet with some sort of dl protocol
for Winsock-- do they exist????????????????????
Hmm?????
MTK

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Subject: Re: WANTED: free telnet _server_ for winsock (Simtel site?)

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Thomas R. Stephenson) says:
>
>telnetd is available to allow you to telnet into a dos machine.  try simtel
>sites i believe under tcpip.
>
>

So what is a simtel site?  Is there a specific address?  Thanks!  Tom.

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Subject: Re: Winsock + WFW 3.11 + ODI drivers

In article <2rje28$[e-mail]> msbendts@andersen (Mike Bendtsen) writes:
>From: msbendts@andersen (Mike Bendtsen)
>Subject: Re: Winsock + WFW 3.11 + ODI drivers
>Date: 20 May 1994 22:36:56 GMT
>Greg Kaisen ([e-mail]) wrote:
>: I am trying to get support for Trumpet Winsock applications within
>: Windows for Workgroups running on the ODI drivers.
>:....<much stuff deleted>
>: -thank you,  [e-mail]
>Well, this is the same roadblock that I have encountered.  Here is my guess to
>what is happening....in DOS, the protocol stack is being formed with ODI, in
>Windows for Workgroups, Microsoft used the NDIS procedure to build the protocol
>stack.  The conflict comes from the fact that there is no packet driver being
>defined for the NDIS protocol stack that Windows for Workgroups uses.
>So, looking at the files you load with the ODI stack in your autoexec.bat
 file,>: In my AUTOEXEC.BAT the relevant lines are:
>:           LSL                 -  link support layer
>:           3C503               -  3com 3c503 odi driver
>:           IPXODI              -  ipx odi driver
>:           VLM                 -  virtual loadable module (virtual netx)
>you first load the Netware drivers,
>:           NET START           -  windows for workgroups starter
>:           ODIHLP              -  odi to ndis helper file
>then your Windows for Workgroups files,
>:           ODIPKT              -  odi packet driver
>:           WINPKT 0x69         -  packet driver translator for windows
>and finally, the packet driver files for Trumpet Winsock.
>... < again much stuff deleted>
>        [NETBEUI]
>        BINDINGS=3C5X9
>        LANABASE=0
>        SESSIONS=10
>        NCBS=12
>The obvious peice that this file is missing is a packet driver section.
>Windows for Workgroups has no clue that a packet driver is to exist, so Trumpet
>is unable to load.
>Now, with Windows for Workgroups v3.10, there was a shim called NDIS_GUP.SYS
>that was loaded in the config.sys which allowed the packet drivers to be
>bound in the NDIS protocol stack.  Is there such a shim for Windows for
>Workgroups?
>I think that would resolve the problems we are having....
>Thanks.
>Mike

As I understand it, from the Windows for Workgroups 3.11 Resource Kit
(cheaper than all the aspirin I was taking before I bought it) this explanation
is close, but NOT quite right. In WFWG 3.11 without NetWare, the shim is
DIS_PKT which defaults to interrupt 0x60, and ones uses WINPKT 0x60
to provide mutliple application support in Windows (any flavor). When one
installs WFWG, _AFTER_ already having installed NetWare (its what the
book tells you to do and its the only way I've seen it go gracefully without
a lot of tricky hand editting - if you're doing NetWare after WFWG, turn off
the network support in WFWG, then install NetWare, then turn WFWG
networking back on.) ... Sorry for the sidetrack there... When WFWG
installs it automatically sense the presence of NetWare, let's ODI run
the hardware, and installs its own internal NDIS-ODI shim the ODIHLP
is part of this; this is also the reason that all of the BINDING= lines in
PROTOCOL.INI refer to the ODI ( MLID) driver and NOT to the NDIS
driver. Given this configuration, you need a packet driver to ODI shim,
that _IS_ the ODIPKT.
But wait there's more... This means that just as with DIS_PKT the
interrupt vector fed to WINPKT must be the same one the ODIPKT shim
is using, thus I am suspicious about the line:
          WINPKT 0x69
Where did the 0x69 come from? I winging a bit here on memory but as I
recall the ODIPKT line looks something like
        ODIPKT   0   96
and you'd use
        WINPKT 0x60
and everything would work because ODIPKT accepts the interrup in DECIMAL
and WINPKT accepts it in HEX, i.e. 0x60 = 96. So unless the default for ODIPKT
is 105 = 0x69, then I would not expect your system to work properly. I would
suggest that you find the proper parameters to pass to ODIPKT (I don't have
the description close at hand), convert the decimal parameter to hex and
put that as your WINPKT parameter.
Good Luck ... hope this helps
Doug
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